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 +====== Quick Link ======
 +
 +  * sg price guide: https://www.sgpcfair.com/
 +  * dell spec check: https://www.dell.com/support/home/en-sg/
 +  * laptop gpu rank: https://benchmarks.ul.com/compare/best-gpus?amount=0&sortBy=SCORE&reverseOrder=true&types=MOBILE&minRating=0&search=notebook
 +  * laptop review: 
 +    * nanoreview.net
 +    * laptopmedia.com (internal component upgrade check)
 +  * monitor review:
 +    * https://www.rtings.com/monitor
 +====== PC Hardware Problem and Solution ======
 +
 +  * **Problem:** upgrade exiting 32GB RAM by adding new ram of 2x16GB, but PC shows 32GB available out of 64GB, other RAM related crash, not boot up
 +    * Solution:
 +      * study: old ram typically is at slower ram speed, like 2400MHz, new RAM typically at higher speed like 3000MHz and old RAM not available in market anymore
 +      * study: also old motherboard may not see future RAM for its bios,
 +      * Solution: go motherboard website, and download latest bios firmware and put in a USB drive to install on bootup and bios menu
 +        * then put old ram in 2,4 slot, the 2nd from CPU, then new ram in 1,3 slot
 +        * go bios, enable Auto XMP for ram, and choose the lower speed of 2 type in A XMP setting, in this example case, 2400 for (2400+3000), and manual choose RAM speed as 2400 for this example case.
 +        * now save change and reboot, you should get both right and system stable
 +
 +
 +====== Monitor ======
 +
 +**2023**
 +
 +| SW271C | 2279 | 27in, 4k, 99%a,100%s, hdr10,subc |
 +| SW240 | 499 | 24in, 1200p, 99%adobe,100%srgb |
 +| PD2705U,P3205U | 749,969 | 27in,4k,99%srgb,hdri10,de3,IPS,usbc,kvm |
 +| PD2725U,PD3220U(hdr10) | 1149 | 27in,4k,100%srgb,hdr400,thunderb3,ip3,usbc,kvm |
 +| P3223QE | 725 | 32in, 4k |
 +| U2723QE | 893 (free arm) | 27in, 4k, usbc, kvm |
 +| P2721Q | 622 | 27in, 4k |
 +| U2722D | 659 | 27in, 2k |
 +
 +**2021**
 +
 +| P3222QE | 778 | 32 4K usbc hub |
 +| U2722DE | 938 | 27 USB-C Hub Monitor |
 +| U2722D | 800 |
 +| U2719D | 729 |
 +| U2721Q | 638 | usbc |
 +| P2719H | 369 |
 +| U2422H | 418 |
 +| S2421H | 258 | 2 HDMI 1.4 ports and 2 x 3W speakers |
 +| S2421HS | 268 | DP 1.2a and an HDMI 1.4 port |
 +| P2419H | 279 |
 +| P2422HE | 388 |
 +
 +| flexispot ma8b | 99/89 | 17-35", length 62cm, 51cm, sec1: 26cm (mine: 17cm) |
 +| ergoedge | 78 | 17-32", multi, sec1: vari-36cm  |
 +| type A | 39 | -27", sec1: 20cm |
 +
 +====== Accessory ======
 +
 +^ display related |
 +| ugreen 4K DP to HDMI adapter (MM137) | 4k@60Hz, 3D, HDR support |
 +
 +====== 2021.07 Build ======
 +
 +|                        | bz     | dy     | tp     |
 +^ b550 tom     + 5900x   | 1116-  | 1132-  | 1190+  |
 +^ b550 tom + 3700x       | 774-   | 780    | 730-   |
 +| b550m motar f + 3700x  | 788    | 780    ^ 730-   ^
 +| b550m motar f + 5900x  | 1130   | 1132-  | 1190+  |
 +^ b550 gedge f + 3700x   | 815-   | 808    | 754-   |
 +| b550 gedge f + 5900x   ^ 1157-  | 1161   | 1213-  |
 +| b550 gcarbon f+3700x          | 849    | 792-   |
 +| b550 gcarbon f+5900x          | 1202   | 1251+  |
 +^ rjV3000 32G            | 275+   | 275+   | ?      |
 +| flareX3200 32G         | 275+   ^ 290+   | ?      |
 +| sniperx3600 32gb       ^ 288+   | 299+   | ?      |
 +| z3200 32G              | 325+   | 328+   | ?      |
 +| z3200 64G              |        |        |        |
 +| evo500G                | 128+   | 99+    | 97+    |
 +| s12-650w               | 93            | ?      |
 +^ vega L                        | 85     | 85     |
 +| alpha tg                      | 60            |
 +| forge m mesh           | 55     | 54     | 54     |
 +| forge s                | 85     | -      | ?      |
 +| vxr                    ^ 96     | 95     | 95     |
 +
 +<code>754+288+97+93+85</code>
 +====== 2021.02 Build ======
 +
 +| 4tb,5tb          | 135,168(dy),138,175(tp) |
 +
 +|                          | alls | bz | dy |tp |
 +| b450m baz max wf + 3700x | 654" | | 637" | - | 
 +| b450m motar max + 3700x  | 665" | | 651" |  |
 +^ b450 toma max + 3700x    | 679" | |  - | |
 +| b550 a pro   + 5900x          | 1503" | 1194 | 1102 |
 +| b550 gedge f + 5900x          | 15586" | 1278 | 1182 |
 +^ b550 tom     + 5900x     | 1160 | 1557"| 1251  | 1159  |
 +| b550m mtar f + 5900x     | 1160 | |  | 1159 |
 +| b550 gcarbon f+5900x          | 1626" |  | 1221 |
 +^ rjV3000 32G              ^ -   | 222" | 240" | 194? |
 +| flareX3200 32G           | 225" | 227" | 262" | 193? |
 +| sniperx3600 32gb             ^ 265"| 275"| 212? |
 +| z3200 32G                | 279" | 285" | 305" | 245? |
 +| z3200 64G                |   | 525"| 542" | 448? |
 +| evo500G                  | 99. | 88. | 95. | 128" |
 +| s12-650w                 | 95, | 93 |  | 90. |
 +^ vega L                   | 85 |    | 85 | 85 |
 +| alpha tg                 | 59, |    | 60 |  |
 +| forge m mesh                | 55 | 54 | 54 |
 +| vxr                      |    ^ 96 | 95 | 95 |
 +
 +| 5900x total | 1613=1159+222+88+90+54 |
 +| 3700x total | 1091=637+222+88+90+54 |
 +
 +ref:
 +  * 5900x is about 1.7x faster than 3700x, roughly, 3hr task will take 1hr40min for new cpu
 +  * 5900x is about 3x faster than 1600x, 3hr task will take 1hr for new cpu
 +  * https://www.legitreviews.com/amd-ryzen-9-5900x-and-ryzen-5-5600x-cpu-review_223310/3
 +  * https://www.cpuagent.com/cpu/amd-ryzen-5-1600/benchmarks/blender-2-79b-bmw27-cpu-benchmark/nvidia-geforce-gtx-750-ti
 +  * https://www.cpuagent.com/cpu/amd-ryzen-5-1600/benchmarks/cinebench-r20-multi-core/nvidia-geforce-gtx-750-ti?res=1&quality=ultra
 +
 +| b550 a pro  | 2gpu+space | lan | C+2A; C+A+2a+8u  |
 +| b550tom     | 2gpu+space | 2x lan | C+2A; C+A+2a+6u |
 +| b550motar f | 2gpu       | wifi,lan | C+2A; C+A+2a+6u |
 +| b550 g edge f | 2gpu+space | wifi,lan | C+2A; C+A+2a+6u |
 +| b550 g carbon f | 2gpu+space | wifi,lan | C+2A; C+A+2a+8u |
 +
 +====== 2022.07 build ======
 +
 +  * powerful one
 +
 +|       | bz | dy |
 +| 5700X+B550M mortor wifi | 749 | 684 |
 +| SniperX3600 32GB | 198 |
 +| RIPJAWS V 3600Mhz 32GB |  | 174 |
 +| ss870evo512x2 | 98x2 | 92x2 |
 +| ZOTAC 3070 Ti TRINITY | 990 | 945 |
 +| Seasonic Focus GX-750W Gold Modular | 178 | 176 |
 +| tecware Forge M2 TG ARGB | 55 |
 +| Tecware Forge L A |   | 95 |
 +^ total ^ 749+198+196+990+178+55=2366 | 684+174+184+945+176+95=2258 |
 +| Dell 27 Monitor - P2722H | 459x2 | 358x2 |
 +| wacom medium | 450 |
 +
 +====== 2022.12 build ======
 +
 +ref: https://www.theworldsbestandworst.com/2022/10/amd-ryzen-7-7700x-vs-5700x-vs-3700x-vs-2700x/
 +  * 7700x is new gen with DDR5 ram, and 5nm, built-in gpu, so no point buy old ones
 +  * 7700x is 30-50% better than 5700x, 200% of 2700x.
 +  * 7,5,3,2 = 12,9,7,6 in term of power ratio
 +  * 3,2,1x = 5,4,3.5 in term of power ratio
 +
 +ref: https://www.cgdirector.com/cinebench-r23-scores-updated-results/
 +
 +|        |      |       | 1     | 1.2   | 1.3   | 2   |
 +|        | 1600 | 1700x | 2700x | 3700x | 5700x | 7700x |
 +| single | 3.5 | 3.4    | 4.1   | 5     | 6     | 8     |
 +| mult   | 2.5 | 3.3    | 4     | 5     | 5.3   | 8     |
 +
 +|                          | bz | dy | tp |
 +| 7700X+B650M mortor wifi | 954 | 936| 876 |
 +| 32Gx2                    | 555 | 550 (z5-56) |
 +| ss870evo512               | 78 | 78 | 77 |
 +| Seasonic Focus GM-750W Gold | 159 | 176 gx |
 +| tecware Forge M2 TG ARGB | 55 |
 +| Tecware Forge L A |   | 95 |
 +^ total ^ 954+555+78+159+55=1801 |||
 +^       | 936+550+78+159+55=1778 |||
 +^       | 876+550+78+159+55=1718 |||
 +| Dell 27 Monitor - P2722H | - | 318x2 | ? |
 +| u3223qe                  |   | 1039 |
 +
 +====== 2023.03 build ======
 +
 +ref: https://www.theworldsbestandworst.com/2022/10/amd-ryzen-7-7700x-vs-5700x-vs-3700x-vs-2700x/
 +  * 7700x is new gen with DDR5 ram, and 5nm, built-in gpu, so no point buy old ones
 +  * 7700x is 30-50% better than 5700x, 200% of 2700x.
 +  * 7,5,3,2 = 12,9,7,6 in term of power ratio
 +  * 3,2,1x = 5,4,3.5 in term of power ratio
 +
 +ref: https://www.cgdirector.com/cinebench-r23-scores-updated-results/
 +
 +|        |      |       | 1     | 1.2   | 1.3   | 2   |
 +|        | 1600 | 1700x | 2700x | 3700x | 5700x | 7700x |
 +| single | 3.5 | 3.4    | 4.1   | 5     | 6     | 8     |
 +| mult   | 2.5 | 3.3    | 4     | 5     | 5.3   | 8     |
 +
 +| MSI PRO X650-P WIFI AM5 ATX | USB 3.2 Gen 2x2,USB 3.1/3.2 Gen 2  | 4.0x16, 4.0x16(x4), 4.0x16(x2)3.0x1  | big space w pcei |
 +| MSI PRO B650-P WIFI AM5 ATX | 1 x USB-C (USB 3.2 Gen 2x2)  | 4.0x16, 4.0x16(x4), 3.0x16(x1) | big space w pcei |
 +| MSI MAG B650M MORTAR WIFI AM5 |  1 x USB 3.2 Gen 2x2  | 4.0x16, 4.0x16(x4), 3.0x1 | best fit 1 |
 +| MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI | USB 3.1/3.2 Gen 2 | 4.0x16,  4.0x16(x2), 3.0x1 | fit 2 |
 +  * flarex ddr4 32g = 140
 +
 +|                          | bz | dy | tp |
 +| 7700X+B650 tomah wifi       | 959 |
 +| 7700X+B650M mortor wifi | 958" | 935 | 876 |
 +| 7700X+B650-P wif        | 908 | x | 876 |
 +| 32Gx2 x5600              | 490,, | 424 |
 +| ss870evo512               | 75,125 | 75,127 | |
 +| Seasonic Focus GM-750W Gold | 162' | 178 gx |
 +| tecware Forge M2 TG ARGB | 66" ||
 +| tecware forge s tg            | 86 |
 +| zotac 4070ti oc          | 1200 | 1238 |
 +^ total ^ 908+490+75+162+66=1701 |||
 +^       | 908+424+75+162+66=1635 |||
 +| Dell 27 Monitor - P2722H | - | 318x2 | ? |
 +| u3223qe                  |   | 1039 |
 +
 +====== 2023.04 build ======
 +
 +|                          | bz | dy | tp |
 +| 7700X+B650 tomah wifi       | 938,, | 908,, |
 +| 7700X+B650M mortor wifi | 996"" | 915,, | 872,, |
 +| 7700X+B650-P wif        | 945"" | x | 876 |
 +| 32Gx2 x5600              | 416,, | 424 |
 +| ss870evo512               | 75,119,, | 68,,118 | |
 +| Seasonic Focus GM-750W Gold | 162 | 175, gx |
 +| tecware Forge M2 TG ARGB | 66" ||
 +| tecware forge s tg            | 86 |
 +| zotac 4070ti oc          | 1208" | 1197,, |
 +^ total ^ 908+424+75+162+66=1635 |||
 +^       | 908+416+75+162+66=1627 |||
 +| Dell 27 Monitor - P2722H | - | 318x2 | ? |
 +| u3223qe                  |   | 1039 |
 +
 +| | octanebench 2020 |
 +| RTX 3070Ti | 439 |
 +| RTX 3060 | 282 |
 +| GTX 1070Ti | 129 |
 +| GTX 1060 | 75 |
 +
 +ref: https://render.otoy.com/octanebench/results.php
 +  * RTX in unreal (Getting Started with RTXDI and NvRTX in Unreal Engine 5): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9XPCKQBg8E
 +
 +Amazon evo 870 1tb: 64sgd (discount + buy 3+ promo)
 +
 +| G15 (5520) - 1100sgd | G15 (5530) - 1349 |
 +| i5-12500h (12-16, 4.5ghz) | i5-13450HX (10-16, 4.6) |
 +| 3050 4G | 3050 6G |
 +| 2x8GB, 4800Mhz | 2x8GB 4800 |
 +| 512GB | 512GB |
 +| 1920x1080, 120hz, 250nit, led ||
 +| grey/green | black |
 +| 2.5kg | 2.8kg |
 +
 +  * ddr4 2x16 (32G) laptop: 119sgd
 +  * ddr5 4800 (32G) laptop: 139sgd (bz)
 +  * ddr5 5200 (32g) laptop: 129sgd (bz)
 +
 +====== 2023.06 ======
 +
 +| mb | asus B550 Tuf gaming plus |
 +| cpu | 3700x |
 +| ram | klevv bolt 3600 mhz (8x2) |
 +| ssd | 500g |
 +| gpu | Zotac RTX 3060 TWIN EDGE OC 12G |
 +| psu | 850W FSP HYDRO HG 80+ Gold |
 +| fan | Bequiet Dark Rock Pro 4, BEQUIET Pure Wings 140mm (Stealth Fans, Silent) X 3 |
 +| case | BEQUIET PURE BASE 500DX |
 +
 +  * shop: [[https://www.carousell.sg/p/in-stock-klevv-bolt-x-bolt-xr-cras-x-rgb-cras-xr-rgb-ddr4-3200mhz-3600mhz-cl16-cl18-4000mhz-cl19-16gb-32gb-kit-desktop-ram-argb-u-dimm-perf-ram-1165338385/|link]]
 +    * 16GB KIT (8GB X 2) 3600MHZ - $60 [35-40]
 +    * 32GB KIT (16GB X 2) 3600MHZ - $105
 +  * shop sl: Klevv Bolt X DDR 4 32GB 3600Mhz (16GB x 2) = 110 sgd
 +    * SIM LIM SQUARE #05-48
 +    * KLEVV BOLT X KD48GU880-36A180U 16GB (2x 8GB) 3600MHz CL18 DDR4  (65)
 +    * KLEVV BOLT X KD4AGU880-36A180U 32GB (2x 16GB) 3600MHz CL18 DDR4 (100)
 +
 +  * ref: G.SKILL FLARE X DDR4 3200MHz CL16 2x16G (100sgd)
 +
 +====== 2023.12 ======
 +
 +GPU refer
 +{{:techwiki:computer:gpu_power.jpg|}}
 +
 +====== My OLD Builds ======
 +
 +| 180sgd | 1200sgd | 1200sgd |
 +| i5-7600 4.1G (4/4),14nm | i5-4690 3.9G (4/4), 22nm | R5-1600 3.6G (6/12), 14nm |
 +| MSI H270 Gaming Pro Carbon | Asus H81 | B450M Motar Max |
 +| Vengeance 16GB | GSkill 16GB | FlareX 32GB |
 +| GTX1070 | GTX1070Ti | GTX1070Ti |
 +| Focus+ 650 Gold | S12III 650W | |