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 +====== Medium Format is Dead and 135 Format Mirrorless is the Future ======
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 +  * Medium Format's key advantage is its large film size in old days for more details
 +  * while the fastest medium format lens are nowhere faster comparing to today's full frame mirrorless lens options
 +  * Full frame 135 format mirrorless just way lighter and compact and more flexible on adapting options overall; and nowaday resolution is more than needed
 +
 +^ format ^ fast lens on MF ^ equiv. 135 format ^ native 135 alternative ^
 +^ 645 format | Mamiya 645 80mm f1.9 | 50mm f1.2 ^ 50mm f0.95 |
 +^ 645 format | Hasselblad 110mm F2 | 75mm f1.3 ^ Canon 85mm f1.2 |
 +^ 645 format | Mamiya 645 150mm/f2.8 | 100mm f1.8 ^ Sigma 105mm f1.4 |
 +^ 6x7 format | Mamiya RZ 110mm f/2.8 | 55mm f1.4 ^ 50mm f0.95 |
 +^ 6x7 format | Mamiya RZ 150mm f2.5 | 75mm f1.2 ^ Canon 85mm f1.2 |
 +^ 6x9 format | Mamiya Press 100mm f2.8 | 43mm f1.2 ^ 50mm f0.95 |
 +^ 6x9 format | Mamiya Press 150mm f/5.6 | 70mm f2.4 ^ Canon 85mm f1.2 |
 +
 +  * ref:
 +    * https://fstoppers.com/originals/end-medium-formats-reign-my-journey-phase-one-237535
 +
 +====== MF crop factor and focal length equivalent ======
 +
 +  * still film
 +{{photowiki:film_size_all.jpg|}}
 +  * motion film
 +{{photowiki:film_size_35mm_vs_imax_format_70mm.jpg|}}
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 +relative Crop Factor = MF width / 36mm (135 film width)
 +
 +Crop Factor = 1/ relative Crop Factor
 +
 +(Note: 6 means 6cm in MF)
 +|              |35mm     ^645       ^ 6x6      ^ 6x7      ^ 6x9      ^ 6x12      ^ 6x17 LF   ^ 6x24 LF  | 4x5"     | 5x7" | 8x10" |
 +|ActualfilmSize|36×24 mm |56 x 42 mm|56 x 56 mm|56 x 72 mm|56 x 84 mm|56 x 112 mm|56 x 168 mm |56 x 224 mm|102×127 mm|127 x 178mm|20×25cm|
 +|size compare  | 1x      | 2.7x     |3.6x      |4.6x      |5.4x      |7.3x       |11x         |14.5x      |15x     |26x   |58x |
 +|print size    | A3      | A2       | A2       | A1       | A1,A0    | 2xA2      | 3xA2       | 4xA2      | 2A0    | 4A0  | 8A0 |
 +
 +|    | 135mm equivalent Angle of View ||||||||||
 +| rCF|1.5x|1.5x |2x   | 2.3x| 3.1x | 4.6x| 6.2x  | 3.5x | 5x   | 7x    |
 +| FL ^645 ^ 6x6 ^ 6x7 ^ 6x9 ^ 6x12 | 6x17 | 6x24 | 4x5" | 5x7" | 8x10" |
 +^28mm|17mm|     |     |     |      |     |       |      |      |       |
 +^35mm|21mm|     |     |     |11mm  |     |       |      |      |       |
 +|40mm|    | 25mm|     |     |      |     |       |      |      |       |
 +|43mm|    |     |22mm |     |      |     |       |      |      |       |
 +^45mm|28mm|     |     | 20mm|14.5mm|     |       | 13mm |      |       |
 +|50mm|    | 32mm|25mm |     |      |     |       |      |      |       |
 +^55mm|35mm|     |     |     |18mm  |     |       |      |      |       |
 +|65mm|    |     |33mm | 28mm|21mm  |     |       | 18mm |      |       |
 +^75mm|50mm| 50mm|     |     |24mm  |     |       | 21mm | 15mm |       |
 +|80mm|    |     |41mm |     |      |     |       |      |      |       |
 +|90mm|    |     |45mm | 35mm|28mm  | 20mm|14.5mm | 25mm | 18mm |       |
 +|110mm|   |     |50mm |     |      | 24mm|       |      |      |  16mm |
 +^120mm|75mm|    |     | 50mm|      |     |19mm   | 35mm |      |  18mm |
 +^150mm|95mm|95mm|75mm |     |      | 33mm|24mm   | 42mm | 30mm |  21mm |
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 +LF ref: 
 +  * 4x5 ref: http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/4x5.htm
 +  * 4x5 ref: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/Cramer.shtml
 +  * 5x7 ref: http://www.largeformatphotography.info/5x7.html
 +  * http://www.fotomancamera.com/product_list.asp?id=168
 +  * LF ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_format_(photography)
 +MF panorama ref (612,617,624):
 +  * http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/617.htm
 +  * http://www.fotomancamera.com/product_list.asp?id=168
 +MF ref:
 +  * http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/format.htm
 +  * 645 ref: http://www.kenrockwell.com/pentax/645/645.htm
 +  * 6x6 ref: http://www.kenrockwell.com/mamiya/6.htm
 +  * 6x7 ref: http://www.kenrockwell.com/mamiya/7.htm
 +  * mamiya ref: http://www.kenrockwell.com/mamiya/index.htm
 +  * 6x9 ref: http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Fujica_GW690
 +
 +====== 120 film develop in SG======
 +
 +  * trip-D MiniLab at burlington square (beside SimLim Square)
 +    * http://www.lomography.com/more/photolabs/2082-triple-d-minilab-burlington-square
 +    * process fee: 5 sgd
 +    * 
 +  * grace digital lab at clementi
 +    * http://www.gracedigitallab.com/gdl_price.html
 +    * http://www.lomography.com/more/photolabs/745-grace-digital-lab
 +    * Mon-Sat: 11am - 8pm (6pm at Fri)
 +    * process fee: 3.5 sgd
 +  * Konota Fuji Shop
 +    * process fee: 5sgd
 +    * Mon-Sun (10am-7pm, 3pm-7:30pm on Sun)
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 +More shop at SG: http://www.lomography.com/more/photolabs/country/192-singapore
 +
 +Some Fuji Kodak shop
 +  * basement of lucky plaza have fuji counter selling 120 film
 +
 +====== 120 Film price ======
 +
 +120 film shot counts
 +| 645 | 6x6 | 6x7 | 6x9 |
 +| 16 | 12 | 10 | 8 |
 +
 +  * Kodak Professional Ektacolor 160: 4.4-5.2-6 sgd ([[http://www.lomography.com/more/photolabs/590-peek|Peek]] near City Hall area)
 +  * FujiColor 160NP: 4.4-6.5 sgd
 +
 +120 Good color one:
 +  * Kodak Ektar 100: 6.6 sgd
 +  * Kodak Portro 160: 12 sgd (8sgd)
 +  * Kodak Portro 400: 7.6 sgd (8sgd)
 +  * FUJI VelVia 100F E6: 7 sgd
 +  * FUJI VEIA RVP50 E6: 6.6 sgd
 +
 +120 B&W:
 +  * FUJI NEOPAN100 ACROS120: 4.4 sgd
 +  * SHD100 120: 3.5 sgd
 +  * Kodak 100TMax 120: 7 sgd
 +  * Kodak 400TMax 120: 7 sgd
 +  * Shanghai GP3: 2 sgd
 +  * iford infred SFX 200: (14 sgd)
 +
 +135 film
 +  * Kodak 100: 6.6 sgd
 +  * Kodak 200: 3.5 sgd (2.5sgd)
 +  * Kodak 400: 3.2 sgd (3.1sgd at Tiongbaru plaze fuji shop)
 +  * Kodak Ektar 100: 7 sgd
 +  * iford delta 100: (7sgd)
 +  * iford delta 400: (7sgd)
 +  * iford infred SFX 200: (14 sgd)
 +  * ilford delta 3200: 9 sgd (ruby)
 +  * fuji superia/nature 1600: 14 sgd
 +  * fuji portra 800: 14 sgd
 +  * fuji 100: 5.6 sgd
 +  * fuji 200: 3 sgd (2.5sgd at Tiongbaru plaze fuji shop if I am not wrong)
 +
 +135 BW film:
 +  * Kodak 100TMax: 7 sgd
 +  * Kodak 400TMax: 7 sgd
 +===== Film and Airport check=====
 +  * normally no issue: [[http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/slr-compacts/1004063-film-starter-basic-questions.html|link]]
 +
 +
 +====== 645 vs 6x7 and large format ======
 +
 +  * [[http://www.flickr.com/photos/wild_ferret/3982853404/|check size comparison of Bronica 645, RZ67, and a 4x5]]
 +  * [[http://www.design215.com/toolbox/film_chart.php|film size comparison]]
 +  * medium format photography intro: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glI-NGw1O4I
 +
 +My interchangable MF preference: Mamiya RB67 > Hasselblad 500cm > Fuji GSW690 > Pentax 645 > Bronica ETRSi 645 > Mamiya 645 ProSD > Pentax 6x7 > Twin Lens Reflex cameras > Old fixed lens MF cameras
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 +(AE prism finder > prism finder > waist level finder)
 +====== Medium Format brands and choice ======
 +
 +  * Most of available and affordable choice are film medium format cameras and they are generally 2nd hand in good or bad working condition;
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 +  * guide: http://www.antiquecameras.net/
 +===== Mamiya RB67, RZ67, Mamiya M645, AF645 and rangefinder 7 series =====
 +
 +  * [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rekQ9IZqmVA&feature=related|Mamiya RB67 video intro]]
 +  * RB67 are old and common found in Buy and Sell forums, they are the biggest 6x7 MF film camera in size and weight
 +  * [[http://blog.blackandwhitefineart.net/2011/01/the-perfect-duet/|RZ67 Pro II intro]]
 +  * RZ67 are later slim version of RB67, and slightly higher in price.
 +    * Both above are barrel focusing, you use a knob to rotate to extend the lens forward and backward from body to focus,like TLR cameras
 +
 +  * Mamiya 6: 6x6 compact rangefinder medium format camera with interchangable lens
 +  * Mamiya 7: 6x7 compact rangefinder medium format camera with interchangable lens
 + 
 +  * Mamiya 645: cheap and light weight Mamiya MF options
 +    * "Mamiya models had long-term durability issues. I think that was solved by the Pro/Pro TL series.Personally, my Pro TL has been rock-solid,"
 +    * 645AF: good cheap AF MF option compared to Pentax 645N
 +      * Mamiya AF lens review: 
 +        * http://www.getdpi.com/forum/lens-accessory-reviews/15710-mamiya-lens-overview.html
 +        * http://www.tonyhowell.co.uk/lenstests.htm
 +      * Mamiya MF lens
 +        * http://slrlensreview.com/web/reviews/misc/mamiya
 +
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 +  * Mamiya RZ lens review: http://www.frankdoorhof.com/site/2011/03/review-lenses-rzrb-system/
 +  * Mamiya RZ vs RB system explained: http://forums.popphoto.com/showthread.php?231224-Mamiya-RB67-vs-Mamiya-RZ67
 +===== Pentax 645 and Pentax 6x7 type=====
 +
 +  * Pentax 645 the first gen, are cheap and easy find, with lens compatible to the cheapest Digital MF camera - Pentax 645D, just like all Pentax camera, all Pentax MF lens will work easily on it
 +    * 2nd gen and 3rd gen costs a bit
 +  * [[http://www.photoethnography.com/ClassicCameras/AsahiPentax67.html|Pentax 6x7 series intro]]:
 +    * 1st gen and 2nd gen, cheap and easy find:
 +      * intro video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSWOiJlT9OY
 +    * 3rd gen costs more
 +
 +===== Shanghai Seagull TLR and other 6x6 TLR=====
 +  * avaliable brand new and cheap
 +  * TLR camera is Medium format in most compact form, beside MF rangefinder
 +    * rolleiflex: http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_589466&feature=iv&src_vid=GxViNV9-Zgo&v=wEudznuyHms
 +
 +===== Fuji GW and GSW 6x7,6x8,6x9 rangefinder=====
 +  * affordable and good find in 2nd hand market for big format in a more holdable form, with non-interchangeable MF camera system
 +    * video intro GW690III: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8wH9KPLbTU
 +    * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxViNV9-Zgo&feature=related
 +
 +===== Bronica, Pentacon 6, and other=====
 +
 +  * [[http://old.photosharp.com.tw/cameratest/bronica/bronica645etr-1.htm|Bronica 645 ETR series intro]]
 +  * Bronica 6x6 S series intro (Model S, D, C, C2) [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIWL-dARAPY|video]]
 +  * [[http://chemicalcameras.wordpress.com/bronica-gs-1/|Bronica GS-1 (6x7 SLR) system intro]]
 +  * Bronica SQ-Ai intro: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOQ0XdtW6sU
 +  * All bronica MF lineup
 +    * D(1959)、S(1961)、C(1964)、S2(1965)、C2(1965)、S2A(1969)
 +    * EC(1972)、EC-TL(1975)、ETR(1976)、ETR-C(1977)、ETRS(1978)、
 +    * EC-TL II(1978)、SQ(1980)、SQ-A(1982)、SQ-AM(1982)、GS-1(1983)、
 +    * ETRS-i(1988)、SQ-Ai(1990)、SQ-B(1996)、ETRS-i LE(1996)
 +
 +
 +===== hasselblad 6x6 system =====
 +
 +  * expensive options like leica in 135 format
 +  * still you can find good affordable ones like Leica M3
 + 
 +  * buying guide for hasselblad: http://www.bythewei.com/wordpress/2012/07/things-to-know-before-buying-a-hassy/
 +
 +
 +===== instant film camera =====
 +
 +  * http://www.filmwasters.com/forum/index.php?topic=773.0
 +  * video of Fujifilm Fotorama FP-1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&v=ekd5kE7-dsM&NR=1
 +
 +===== Lomography camera =====
 +
 +  * Belair 6x12:
 +    * http://altcameras.com/2013/01/18/lomography-belair-x-6-12-part-two/
 +
 +====== Autofocus and Digital Medium Format camera======
 +
 +  * almost 10x expensive than 135 format DSLR
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