General Guide: http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=124
CP+ camera and imaging event (March 2nd weekend) : http://www.cpplus.jp/en/index.html Photokina camera and imaging event (Sep middle) : http://www.photokina-cologne.com/
Camera shop in China Map
Bangkok, Thailand
Interesting Reading
Bird photography and high zoom FAQs (How much zoom power you need?)
Lens and Works
pack 1 | pack 2 | pack 3 | pack 4 | one-for-all | other |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
18-55mm | 18-135mm | 24-70mm | 18-50mm | 18-200mm | 100-400mm |
SGD 150-800 | SGD 280-1350 | SGD 250-1580 | SGD | SGD 350-850 | SGD 1800 |
55-250mm | 150-500mm | 70-200mm | 50-500mm | 18-250mm | 1.4 ext |
SGD 250-430 | SGD 1400 | SGD 550-1400 | SGD 1400-2000 | SGD 450-600 | SGD 300 |
400mm | 70-300mm | 28-300mm | 2x ext | ||
f5.6 1400 | SGD 200-700 | SGD 250-700 | SGD 170 |
Primes
50mm | 90mm | 100mm | 300mm | 400mm | 500mmf4 is |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
f1.8 70 | SGD 300-500 | f2.8 400-650 | f2.8 6000 | f5.6 1400-1600 | SGD 7600 |
f1.4 250-450 | 135mm | 200mm | 600mmf4 | ||
f1.2 1900 | f2 1100 | f2.8 850-1200 | SGD 6300 |
Wide-angle lens
10~24mm | 16~35mm |
---|---|
SGD 600-880 | SGD 35-1600 |
canon f4 | canon f4 is | canon f2.8 is II | sigma f2.8 | tamron f2.8 | |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
price | 5000 cny | 8600 cny | 15000 cny | 5700 cny | 5500 cny |
1000 sgd | 1600 sgd | 3000 sgd | 1150 sgd | 1100 sgd | |
weight | 705g | 760g | 1.5kg | 1.3kg | 1.3kg |
length | 17cm | 17cm | 20cm | 19cm | 19cm |
filter | 67mm | 67mm | 77mm | 77mm | 77mm |
year | 1999 | 2006 | 2010 | 2007 | 2008 |
f | 4-32 | 4-32 | 2.8-32 | 2.8-22 | 2.8-32 |
focus | 1.2m | 1.2m | 1.2m | 1m | 0.95m |
blade | 8 | 8 | 8 | 9 | 9 |
IS | no | yes | yes | no | no |
structure | 13g16p | 15g20p | 19g23p | 15g18p | 13g18p |
note | LLW | LW | |||
corner sharpness | 4.5 | 4.4 | 4.5 | 3.8 | 3.8 |
bg bluriness | 3 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
review | with 2x ext |
note: one lens may be bad for a landscape photographer, but may actually be good enough for portrait photographer.
Because,
Conclusion on 70-200mm range:
on a 1.6x crop factor Canon DSLR, it means 44-112mm range.
sigma f2.8-4 | sigma f2.8 | tamron f2.8 | canon f2.8 | canon f4 | |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
price | 3200 cny | 3650 cny | 3000 cny | 9700 cny | 6900 cny |
600 sgd | 700 sgd | 600 sgd | 2000 sgd | 1200 sgd | |
weight | 535g | 715g | 510g | 950g | 670g |
length | 9cm | 11.5cm | 9cm | 12cm | 10cm |
filter | 72mm | 82mm | 67mm | 77mm | 77mm |
year | |||||
f | f2.8-22 | f2.8-32 | f2.8-32 | f2.8-22 | f4-22 |
focus | 0.22m | 0.4m | 0.33m | 0.38m | 0.45m |
blade | 7 | 9 | 7 | 8 | 8 |
IS | yes | no | no | no | yes |
structure | 13g17p | 13g14p | 14g16p | 13g16p | 13g18p |
note | 17-70mm | 24-70mm | 28-75mm | 24-105mm | |
corner sharpness | 4.5 | 3.5 | 4.3 | 4.3 | 4 |
bg bluriness | 3.9 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 |
on 1.6x crop factor Canon DSLR, it means 80mm and 136mm.
canon 50mm 1.4 | sigma 50mm 1.4 | canon 50mm f1.8 | canon f1.8 85mm | Samyang f1.4 85mm manual | |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
price | 2550 | 3600 cny | 500 cny | 2800 cny | |
500 sgd | 700 sgd | 100 sgd | 560 sgd | 400-650 sgd | |
weight | 290g | 505g | 130g | 425g | 513g |
length | 5cm | 6.8cm | 4cm | 7cm | 72mm |
filter | 58mm | 77mm | 52mm | 58mm | 72mm (78) |
year | |||||
f | f1.4-22 | f1.4-16 | f1.8-22 | f1.8-22 | f1.4-16 |
focus | 0.45m | 0.45m | 0.45m | 0.85m | 1m |
blade | 8 | 9 | 5 | 8 | ? |
IS | no | no | no | no | no |
structure | 6g7p | 6g8p | 5g6p | 7g9p | 7g9p |
note | |||||
corner sharpness | 4 | 3.5 | 4 | 4.3 | ? |
bg bluriness | 4.5 | 4.5 | 4.5 | 4.5 | 4.8 |
that means, on crop factor of 1.6, 12.8mm-38mm. (<35mm)
Generally, 14mm (135 format), that is 22mm(1.6crop), which is quite wide for very close portrait+environment shot and indoor.
10mm (135 format), that 16mm (1.6 crop), which is extreme wide for city,
8mm (12mm), which is amazing for nature wide angle shot.
sigma | Canon | Tamron | Tokkia | |||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
8-16mm | 10-20mm | 12-24mm | 10-22mm | 20mm | 10-24mm | 11-16mm | 12-24mm | |
eq 1.6x | 13-25mm | 16-32mm | 19-38mm | 16-35mm | 32mm | 16-38mm | 17-25mm | 19-38mm |
f | 4.5-5.6 | 4-5.6 | 4.5-5.6 | 3.5-4.5 | f2.8 | 3.5-4.5 | f2.8 | f4 |
p | 5200 cny | 3900 cny | 5600 cny | 5300 cny | 3860 cny | 3700 cny | 4074 cny | 3800 cny |
video | s1 | s2 | s3 | c1 | c2 | video | t1 | t2 |
Note: on a 1.6x or 1.5 crop DSLR,those non-full-frame one, as most DSLR, loses the 17mm -35mm wide angle with the so-called kit lens (17-55mm equ. 27-88mm).
Thus, the actual 17-28 range is missing from most DSLR cameras starting from the Kit lens.
and a extra wide lens is required to capture that wide angle.
On a 1.6x crop factor Canon DSLR, it means 480mm to 800mm range,
which finally match today's super zoom compact's 840mm (Canon SX30IS)
canon 70-300mm f4-5.6 | canon 100-400mm f4.5-5.6 | tamron 200-500mm f5-6.3 | sigma 150-500 f5-6.3 | sigma 170-500 f5-6.3 | Tokina 80-400mm Pro f4.5-5.6 |
|
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
equivalent | (112-480mm) | (160-640mm) | (320-800mm) | (240-800mm) | (128-640mm) | |
price | 9399 cny | 12k cny | 7350 cny | 7000 cny | 3500 cny | 3300 cny |
2000 sgd | 2400 sgd | 1470 sgd | 1400 sgd | 600 sgd | ||
2nd hand | 1850 sgd | 1250 sgd | 400 sgd | |||
weight | 1kg | 1.38kg | 1.2kg | 1.9kg | 1.3kg | 0.9kg |
length | 14cm | 19cm | 22cm | 25cm | 13.6cm | |
filter | 64 | 77 | 86 | 86 | 72 | |
year | 2010 | 1998 | 2007 (discontinued) | 2009 | discontinued | |
f | f4-45 | f4.5-38 | f5-32 | f5-22 | f4.5-f32 | |
focus | 1.2m | 1.8m | 2.5m | 2.2m | 2.5m | |
blade | 8 | 8 | 9 | 9 | 8 | |
IS | yes | yes | no (Di LD IF) | yes (DG OS HSM) | no | |
structure | 14g19p | 14g17p | 10g13p | 15g21p | 110g16p | |
note | ||||||
corner sharpness | 4.2 | 4.0 | ||||
review | 1.4x ext | 1.4x ext | ||||
gallery | gallery | gallery |
note: long focus length zoom lens has advantage of flexibility for unpredictable situation, while long focus length prime lens has better image quality in term of sharpness and fast aperture.
Thus,
Flexibility of Prime super-telephoto lens,
Flexibility of fast telephoto zoom lens,
Quality of general super-telephoto zoom lens,
Tamron 90mm f2.8 macro | Canon 100mm f2.8 macro | Sigma 105mm 2.8 macro | Tamron 180mm f3.5 macro | |
---|---|---|---|---|
price | 500 SGD | 730 SGD | ||
2nd hand | 400 SGD | |||
weight | 405g | 600g | 450g | 921g |
diameter | 71mm | 79mm | 74mm | 84mm |
length | 97mm | 119mm | 95mm | 165mm |
filter | 55mm | 58mm | ||
close focus | 29cm | 31cm |
ref: http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Tamron-90mm-f-2.8-Di-Macro-Lens-Review.aspx
The important research artcile on this Question:
Check these 2 images
HS10 | Pentax K-x | Sony A850 (24MP) | Canon 5DII (21MP) | Leica M9 (18MP) |
---|---|---|---|---|
600sgd | 700sgd | 2900SGD | 3000SGD | 9000SGD |
Note:
Note 2:
Conclusion:
"Megazoom camera history and advangtage" moves to a new page.
Check list for mounts capability:
As high quality lens can get extremely expensive, renting one becomes more reasonable and affortable than buying one,
as some extreme heavy and expensive lenses are not used that often.