====== Medium Format is Dead and 135 Format Mirrorless is the Future ====== * Medium Format's key advantage is its large film size in old days for more details * while the fastest medium format lens are nowhere faster comparing to today's full frame mirrorless lens options * Full frame 135 format mirrorless just way lighter and compact and more flexible on adapting options overall; and nowaday resolution is more than needed ^ format ^ fast lens on MF ^ equiv. 135 format ^ native 135 alternative ^ ^ 645 format | Mamiya 645 80mm f1.9 | 50mm f1.2 ^ 50mm f0.95 | ^ 645 format | Hasselblad 110mm F2 | 75mm f1.3 ^ Canon 85mm f1.2 | ^ 645 format | Mamiya 645 150mm/f2.8 | 100mm f1.8 ^ Sigma 105mm f1.4 | ^ 6x7 format | Mamiya RZ 110mm f/2.8 | 55mm f1.4 ^ 50mm f0.95 | ^ 6x7 format | Mamiya RZ 150mm f2.5 | 75mm f1.2 ^ Canon 85mm f1.2 | ^ 6x9 format | Mamiya Press 100mm f2.8 | 43mm f1.2 ^ 50mm f0.95 | ^ 6x9 format | Mamiya Press 150mm f/5.6 | 70mm f2.4 ^ Canon 85mm f1.2 | * ref: * https://fstoppers.com/originals/end-medium-formats-reign-my-journey-phase-one-237535 ====== MF crop factor and focal length equivalent ====== * still film {{photowiki:film_size_all.jpg|}} * motion film {{photowiki:film_size_35mm_vs_imax_format_70mm.jpg|}} relative Crop Factor = MF width / 36mm (135 film width) Crop Factor = 1/ relative Crop Factor (Note: 6 means 6cm in MF) | |35mm ^645 ^ 6x6 ^ 6x7 ^ 6x9 ^ 6x12 ^ 6x17 LF ^ 6x24 LF | 4x5" | 5x7" | 8x10" | |ActualfilmSize|36×24 mm |56 x 42 mm|56 x 56 mm|56 x 72 mm|56 x 84 mm|56 x 112 mm|56 x 168 mm |56 x 224 mm|102×127 mm|127 x 178mm|20×25cm| |size compare | 1x | 2.7x |3.6x |4.6x |5.4x |7.3x |11x |14.5x |15x |26x |58x | |print size | A3 | A2 | A2 | A1 | A1,A0 | 2xA2 | 3xA2 | 4xA2 | 2A0 | 4A0 | 8A0 | | | 135mm equivalent Angle of View |||||||||| | rCF|1.5x|1.5x |2x | 2.3x| 3.1x | 4.6x| 6.2x | 3.5x | 5x | 7x | | FL ^645 ^ 6x6 ^ 6x7 ^ 6x9 ^ 6x12 | 6x17 | 6x24 | 4x5" | 5x7" | 8x10" | ^28mm|17mm| | | | | | | | | | ^35mm|21mm| | | |11mm | | | | | | |40mm| | 25mm| | | | | | | | | |43mm| | |22mm | | | | | | | | ^45mm|28mm| | | 20mm|14.5mm| | | 13mm | | | |50mm| | 32mm|25mm | | | | | | | | ^55mm|35mm| | | |18mm | | | | | | |65mm| | |33mm | 28mm|21mm | | | 18mm | | | ^75mm|50mm| 50mm| | |24mm | | | 21mm | 15mm | | |80mm| | |41mm | | | | | | | | |90mm| | |45mm | 35mm|28mm | 20mm|14.5mm | 25mm | 18mm | | |110mm| | |50mm | | | 24mm| | | | 16mm | ^120mm|75mm| | | 50mm| | |19mm | 35mm | | 18mm | ^150mm|95mm|95mm|75mm | | | 33mm|24mm | 42mm | 30mm | 21mm | LF ref: * 4x5 ref: http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/4x5.htm * 4x5 ref: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/Cramer.shtml * 5x7 ref: http://www.largeformatphotography.info/5x7.html * http://www.fotomancamera.com/product_list.asp?id=168 * LF ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_format_(photography) MF panorama ref (612,617,624): * http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/617.htm * http://www.fotomancamera.com/product_list.asp?id=168 MF ref: * http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/format.htm * 645 ref: http://www.kenrockwell.com/pentax/645/645.htm * 6x6 ref: http://www.kenrockwell.com/mamiya/6.htm * 6x7 ref: http://www.kenrockwell.com/mamiya/7.htm * mamiya ref: http://www.kenrockwell.com/mamiya/index.htm * 6x9 ref: http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Fujica_GW690 ====== 120 film develop in SG====== * trip-D MiniLab at burlington square (beside SimLim Square) * http://www.lomography.com/more/photolabs/2082-triple-d-minilab-burlington-square * process fee: 5 sgd * * grace digital lab at clementi * http://www.gracedigitallab.com/gdl_price.html * http://www.lomography.com/more/photolabs/745-grace-digital-lab * Mon-Sat: 11am - 8pm (6pm at Fri) * process fee: 3.5 sgd * Konota Fuji Shop * process fee: 5sgd * Mon-Sun (10am-7pm, 3pm-7:30pm on Sun) More shop at SG: http://www.lomography.com/more/photolabs/country/192-singapore Some Fuji Kodak shop * basement of lucky plaza have fuji counter selling 120 film ====== 120 Film price ====== 120 film shot counts | 645 | 6x6 | 6x7 | 6x9 | | 16 | 12 | 10 | 8 | * Kodak Professional Ektacolor 160: 4.4-5.2-6 sgd ([[http://www.lomography.com/more/photolabs/590-peek|Peek]] near City Hall area) * FujiColor 160NP: 4.4-6.5 sgd 120 Good color one: * Kodak Ektar 100: 6.6 sgd * Kodak Portro 160: 12 sgd (8sgd) * Kodak Portro 400: 7.6 sgd (8sgd) * FUJI VelVia 100F E6: 7 sgd * FUJI VEIA RVP50 E6: 6.6 sgd 120 B&W: * FUJI NEOPAN100 ACROS120: 4.4 sgd * SHD100 120: 3.5 sgd * Kodak 100TMax 120: 7 sgd * Kodak 400TMax 120: 7 sgd * Shanghai GP3: 2 sgd * iford infred SFX 200: (14 sgd) 135 film * Kodak 100: 6.6 sgd * Kodak 200: 3.5 sgd (2.5sgd) * Kodak 400: 3.2 sgd (3.1sgd at Tiongbaru plaze fuji shop) * Kodak Ektar 100: 7 sgd * iford delta 100: (7sgd) * iford delta 400: (7sgd) * iford infred SFX 200: (14 sgd) * ilford delta 3200: 9 sgd (ruby) * fuji superia/nature 1600: 14 sgd * fuji portra 800: 14 sgd * fuji 100: 5.6 sgd * fuji 200: 3 sgd (2.5sgd at Tiongbaru plaze fuji shop if I am not wrong) 135 BW film: * Kodak 100TMax: 7 sgd * Kodak 400TMax: 7 sgd ===== Film and Airport check===== * normally no issue: [[http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/slr-compacts/1004063-film-starter-basic-questions.html|link]] ====== 645 vs 6x7 and large format ====== * [[http://www.flickr.com/photos/wild_ferret/3982853404/|check size comparison of Bronica 645, RZ67, and a 4x5]] * [[http://www.design215.com/toolbox/film_chart.php|film size comparison]] * medium format photography intro: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glI-NGw1O4I My interchangable MF preference: Mamiya RB67 > Hasselblad 500cm > Fuji GSW690 > Pentax 645 > Bronica ETRSi 645 > Mamiya 645 ProSD > Pentax 6x7 > Twin Lens Reflex cameras > Old fixed lens MF cameras (AE prism finder > prism finder > waist level finder) ====== Medium Format brands and choice ====== * Most of available and affordable choice are film medium format cameras and they are generally 2nd hand in good or bad working condition; * guide: http://www.antiquecameras.net/ ===== Mamiya RB67, RZ67, Mamiya M645, AF645 and rangefinder 7 series ===== * [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rekQ9IZqmVA&feature=related|Mamiya RB67 video intro]] * RB67 are old and common found in Buy and Sell forums, they are the biggest 6x7 MF film camera in size and weight * [[http://blog.blackandwhitefineart.net/2011/01/the-perfect-duet/|RZ67 Pro II intro]] * RZ67 are later slim version of RB67, and slightly higher in price. * Both above are barrel focusing, you use a knob to rotate to extend the lens forward and backward from body to focus,like TLR cameras * Mamiya 6: 6x6 compact rangefinder medium format camera with interchangable lens * Mamiya 7: 6x7 compact rangefinder medium format camera with interchangable lens * Mamiya 645: cheap and light weight Mamiya MF options * "Mamiya models had long-term durability issues. I think that was solved by the Pro/Pro TL series.Personally, my Pro TL has been rock-solid," * 645AF: good cheap AF MF option compared to Pentax 645N * Mamiya AF lens review: * http://www.getdpi.com/forum/lens-accessory-reviews/15710-mamiya-lens-overview.html * http://www.tonyhowell.co.uk/lenstests.htm * Mamiya MF lens * http://slrlensreview.com/web/reviews/misc/mamiya * Mamiya RZ lens review: http://www.frankdoorhof.com/site/2011/03/review-lenses-rzrb-system/ * Mamiya RZ vs RB system explained: http://forums.popphoto.com/showthread.php?231224-Mamiya-RB67-vs-Mamiya-RZ67 ===== Pentax 645 and Pentax 6x7 type===== * Pentax 645 the first gen, are cheap and easy find, with lens compatible to the cheapest Digital MF camera - Pentax 645D, just like all Pentax camera, all Pentax MF lens will work easily on it * 2nd gen and 3rd gen costs a bit * [[http://www.photoethnography.com/ClassicCameras/AsahiPentax67.html|Pentax 6x7 series intro]]: * 1st gen and 2nd gen, cheap and easy find: * intro video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSWOiJlT9OY * 3rd gen costs more ===== Shanghai Seagull TLR and other 6x6 TLR===== * avaliable brand new and cheap * TLR camera is Medium format in most compact form, beside MF rangefinder * rolleiflex: http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_589466&feature=iv&src_vid=GxViNV9-Zgo&v=wEudznuyHms ===== Fuji GW and GSW 6x7,6x8,6x9 rangefinder===== * affordable and good find in 2nd hand market for big format in a more holdable form, with non-interchangeable MF camera system * video intro GW690III: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8wH9KPLbTU * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxViNV9-Zgo&feature=related ===== Bronica, Pentacon 6, and other===== * [[http://old.photosharp.com.tw/cameratest/bronica/bronica645etr-1.htm|Bronica 645 ETR series intro]] * Bronica 6x6 S series intro (Model S, D, C, C2) [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIWL-dARAPY|video]] * [[http://chemicalcameras.wordpress.com/bronica-gs-1/|Bronica GS-1 (6x7 SLR) system intro]] * Bronica SQ-Ai intro: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOQ0XdtW6sU * All bronica MF lineup * D(1959)、S(1961)、C(1964)、S2(1965)、C2(1965)、S2A(1969) * EC(1972)、EC-TL(1975)、ETR(1976)、ETR-C(1977)、ETRS(1978)、 * EC-TL II(1978)、SQ(1980)、SQ-A(1982)、SQ-AM(1982)、GS-1(1983)、 * ETRS-i(1988)、SQ-Ai(1990)、SQ-B(1996)、ETRS-i LE(1996) ===== hasselblad 6x6 system ===== * expensive options like leica in 135 format * still you can find good affordable ones like Leica M3 * buying guide for hasselblad: http://www.bythewei.com/wordpress/2012/07/things-to-know-before-buying-a-hassy/ ===== instant film camera ===== * http://www.filmwasters.com/forum/index.php?topic=773.0 * video of Fujifilm Fotorama FP-1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&v=ekd5kE7-dsM&NR=1 ===== Lomography camera ===== * Belair 6x12: * http://altcameras.com/2013/01/18/lomography-belair-x-6-12-part-two/ ====== Autofocus and Digital Medium Format camera====== * almost 10x expensive than 135 format DSLR